Monday, November 21, 2016

Anderson Cooper 360 on Monday, November 21, 2016


The very capable John Berman was in the AC360 anchor chair for the vacationing Anderson Cooper.  Enjoy the AC360 skit from Saturday night's Saturday Night Live:



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23 comments:

Anonymous said...

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE PANELS SOUND LIKE ......ROBOTS.
JUST FOR THE RECORD: ANDERSON DOES NOT LIKE IT WHEN THEY PLAY HIM ON SNL. NOW HE HAS SOMETHING IN COMMON WITH TRUMP, ONLY ALEC BALDWIN DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB IN PORTRAYING TRUMP WITH HIS FACIAL CONTORTIONS.

Jaanza said...

Thanks, ATA, for the SNL clip. The skit was pretty close to base starting with Van Jones' first line "I'm the good one." and the shallowness of 360's multi-pundit panels.

@CAPPY - I can understand why Anderson and Trump wouldn't like their portrayals on SNL. I think Anderson knows there's nothing he can do about it and hopefully the shallowness and repetitiveness of the panel in the skit will make him really think about how the panels on his show are perceived by comedy writers and by viewers.
However Trump, I believe, will never get the message underneath the joke and won't even get the joke either. Luckily for all of us parody is protected but the First Amendment. Trump actually has less power as President i.e. the government in fighting back against SNL, political cartoonists, The Daily Kos, The Daily Beast or the Huffington Report than he did as a private citizen.

I did not see 360 today. What was the lead story? The Japanese earthquake? The Standing Rock protests turning violent? A panel of federal judges ruling the Wisconsin redistricting was a gerrymandering favoring Republicans? Or Trump?

Pragya said...

@Jaanza

Actually the only thing Anderson had a problem with regarding his portrayal on SNL was the impression they did of him at the Democratic Primary Debate, which was very "queened up" and nothing like AC. In fact a lot of other people trashed that impression too. He said that he had always loved Seth's impression of him and he hasn't said anything about the latest skit. Which I loved, btw. Valid criticism there.

So I mentioned it in the last post and I think it got buried. What did everyone think of the "off the record" meeting Trump had with the network chiefs and key anchors? Anderson wasn't part of it, but apparently he tried to scare the networks into submission. I wonder how that will affect the coverage. Especially for journalists like Katy Tur and Anderson who have been specifically singled out for attacks by Trump. It is rather (actually extremely) worrying.

Talking of people Anderson has clashed with (which we weren't but still), Pam Bondi is part of trump's transition team. So there is that.

Also I wanted to appreciate the AC360 writing team for acknowledging that calling the white supremacist groups "alt right" was sanitizing them. Atleast someone had the guts to say that.

I watched an old segment from the Dem Debate where Jake Tapper was asking AC questions about an article that had come out about him being in the Clinton's tank, and he said that he had actually never met the clintons and had not even been able to get Hillary on his show despite trying forever. Some more insight into the CNN coverage of Hillary, I thought. Another thing I found yesterday (which I hadn't realized) was an article on Forbes (of all places) from last month talking about Anderson was a biased debate moderator because of his liberal views, which I found completely bizarre.

Anonymous said...

"Just for the record, Anderson does not like it when they play him on SNL..."
Really CAPPY? How would you know what AC thinks of this new SNL skit? Have you asked him directly, or are you (once again) projecting what you think you know onto him, just like you often do when you accuse him of being pro-Trump? I'm sorry if my post sounds angry, it's not meant to be, but I'm getting tired of everyone around here heaping non-stop negativity on AC. I'm glad Pragya has been providing some counter perspective lately to balance things out a bit, but really the level of assumptions made by some around here when it comes to how Anderson feels about any particular issue is astounding. If you dislike him so much, why do you even bother with this blog?

Anonymous said...

This is an AC blog and everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if it doesn't agree with yours. If you dislike the opinions here so much I can suggest a message board where everything id sunshine and roses about Anderson.

CWM84 said...

Politics and trump has taken more time away from more interesting news. I jjst wished they did a segment on politics and more stories, human interest stories. Liked they used too. Since trump they have had too much pundits, too much partisan and not enough real journalism. Zucker has tore this once great news source to shreds. I miss KTH, world field stories...and stories they fon't get enough attention, investigations. Daily trump, daily segments on the crooked business of politics just turns off we people who miss hard news, well rounded news. CNN has had too many people on who are personalities and not true neutral journalist. Its a shame because they is what AC set out to do... and this program and CNN has become basically an partisan opinion based pundit network. I took journalism in college and its a shame to see real work be wasted.

Jaanza said...

@Pragya - Donald "I'm not thin-skinned" Trump is trying to bully the media into being yes-men. Nothing but positive glowing reports of Dear Leader. I have no idea how well that's going to work out, hopefully badly for Trump. More than 50 years ago the media stayed silent on John Kennedy's affairs and before that Franklin Roosevelt's polio. Now the media is so diverse and fractured Trump can't hope to skamoosh them all.

Will Anderson hold Trump accountable for things he's said and done? Will 360 scrutinize Trump's international business deals as harshly as Hillary Clinton's emails? So far that's a no. Things can change Actually right this moment on Jake Tapper's show there's a Tom Foreman report on Trump's business and conflicts of interest plus a Q&A afterwards between Tapper and Foreman. Will Foreman's report be repeated on 360 tonight? It should be but I can see it being set aside for a long gazillion-pundit panel discussion.

I don't know how Anderson feels about his portrayals on SNL but am hoping he takes it in stride. I don't know anything about his politics either. Is he a conservative because he's a rich white man? Is he liberal because he's a gay New Yorker? Nobody knows.

Do you remember a show named "Max Headroom" from the 80s? Part of the show took place in a newsroom of the future, the people working there could tell in real time and instantly, how many viewers were tuning in or tuning out. Maybe that's what's needed for 360. If Anderson and Zucker could see a big drop in viewers whenever a gargantuan panel is introduced, that's the end of those panels.

Anonymous said...

IT IS VERY SCARY WHEN THE PRESIDENT ELECT CALLS A MEETING OF ALL EXECUTIVES AND JOURNOS AND TELLS
THEM "HOW TO COVER HIM AND WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE AND WHAT IS NOT."
ACCORDING TO HUFFPOST DRUMPF REALLY WENT AFTER CNN AND SOME ANCHORS IN PARTICULAR, AND CALLED THEM
LIARS. REALLY? COMPARED TO THE WOODSTEIN GENERATION THE JOURNALISTS IN THIS ELECTION CYCLE BENT OVER BACKWARDS FOR TRUMP TO MAKE THEMSELVES ACCESSIBLE. SO NOW THEY GET "SCOLDED" LIKE SCHOOL CHILDREN.
THIS IS NOT A GOOD SIGN WHEN "THE FIFTH ESTATE," IS TOLD WHAT IT CAN AND CAN NOT DO.
DRUMPF HAS TO BE TOLD BY SOMEONE OF INTELLECT THAT THERE IS A CONSTITUTION IN PLACE AND HE MUST ABIDE BY WHAT IS IN THE CONSTITUTION. SOMETHING TELLS ME THIS IS GOING TO BE A ROUGH 4 YEARS FOR
THE COUNTRY. DO I SEE AN IMPEACHMENT ON THE HORIZON?
TODAY BROOKE BALDWIN, OF CNN ALMOST BROKE DOWN IN TEARS WHEN SHE WAS INTERVIEWING A "WHITE SUPREMACIST" AND HE USED THE N WORD. SHE WAS IN A STATE OF SHOCK AND SHE DENOUNCED IT RIGHT AWAY. GOOD FOR HER.
@7:57 I AM NOT GOING TO DIGNIFY YOUR NASTINESS WITH A COMMENT.

Pragya said...

@anonymous I wish you were un-anon so we could communicate directly! But yes. This election has been so strangely divisive and ugly, it has divided everyone. But people are so quick to make snap judgments. For example, remember when Anderson asked Bernie if he was actually a democrat during the primary debate? Bernie fans FLIPPED OUT. The Young Turks actually called AC a republican for saying that. Which is honestly the first time anyone has said that about AC and now it has picked up steam. But LOOK AT BERNIE NOW. He has switched parties again and is a registered independent now. He is willing to be a Donald Trump ally, disregarding everything he claimed to hate Hillary for. His protege Tulsi Gabbard is being vetted for a role in the Trump admin. He turned out to be the biggest republican of all. He sold all his supporters out, yet AC got the flak for asking a valid question.

@JAANZA

As far as SNL is concerned, AC has always been appreciative of their spoofs on him. Regarding the Dem debate sketch (as I mentioned before), Andy Cohen asked him what he thought of the new actor playing him and he said he found it a little strange because it seemed like the only thing he knew about AC was that he was gay and so he played that up. And have you seen the sketch? Because it was painful. But he didn't have a problem with the spoof, just his portrayal in that particular instance, because it seemed homophobic.

You know seeing everyone's comments on how AC was not hard on Trump made me actually question my own perceptions. So I went back and rewatched the RNC and DNC coverage. In the DNC coverage he sparred with Jeff Lord over Trump being a blue-collar billionaire. When Lord brought up the trump tower he said "it's unfortunate that you bring that up because that was constructed using illegal immigrant labor, who slept on the floors and actually sued Trump." and then he defended Hillary by saying that Trump got offended by a tweet when Hillary had been knocked down so many times. Plus he gushed over Michelle Obama and Cory Booker in particular. In contrast his RNC coverage was critical to the point that Jeff Lord got a text from Trump DURING the coverage complaining aout AC being too hard on him. So it really surprises me when people say AC was not hard on Trump and always attacked Hillary. Especially on this blog.

Pragya said...

@JAANZa and @aries moon and anyone else who feels this way, I had a few comments/questions.

Looking at the comments on this blog, I am a little surprised by people saying that AC might be a Republican because he is a rich white man. I am assuming people on this blog have been following his career for a while, in which case you should know that he has never taken his mom's money, has been earning his keep since he was 11 and also that his main motives have always been humanitarian. He is not some anchor sitting behind a desk and praising Democrats, which is very easy to do. He has gone down to the heart of conflict and disaster and genuinely tried to help people. He is worshipped in NO and Phillipines. Why? Because he is a repub? It's so disheartening to see people here say these things. Makes you wonder if he should even bother doing what he does if people are so quick to forget.

I saw someone say he is too hard on Obama and will not be hard on Trump. What makes you say that? He has been talking about Bannon all last week, he is on leave right now so what can he say? Also his most famous run-ins have been with Republicans. Starting with Hurricane Katrina, to Michelle Bachman, to Pam Bondi just this year. Which Democrats has he had feuds with? Yes he has spoken out against some Obama admin fuck-ups but that is because he is a good journalist. but he also debunked the birther conspiracy on his show in detail and has defended Obama a million times on many different occasions. So where is this narrative coming from? I would love to get some insight on this. And also some examples. and please feel free to contradict me on anything I have said if you have any facts I don't.

I think the fact that people don't know his political affiliation shows what a good journalist he is. I would say look at his friends to get an idea of his leanings. They are all openly, staunchly liberal. But again that doesn't mean anything. Honestly I don't think he cares about politics. He is a humanitarian and that is what motivates him. But give credit where it is due. Especially if you are on an Anderson Cooper blog. That's the least you can do.

Molly54 said...

Please tell me what part of we are entitled to our opinions you don't understand? Everyone is different and has their own feelings on certain subjects and do not have to explain to you or anyone why we feel certain topics.

As for AC specifically I miss the days when he cared more about the average person and not all these rich political white guys. There has been no talk about the pipeline out west or Trump's ties to it.

UNICORNS BACON said...

Wrong. He was fine with Seth Meyers impersonation of him. This new guy however totally mocked AC for being gay the first time they did a skit of him. He tried doing Wolf Blitzer too once and it was equally bad.

UNICORNS BACON said...

AC always says it's not his job to make friends with people (politicians/celebrities) That's why he never goes to the White House Correspondent Dinner.. ect.

UNICORNS BACON said...

I'm going to post this again... Have you been watching CNN since Trump was elected?? Where are you getting this "positivity towards Trump" from?!? Because that's not the truth.

UNICORNS BACON said...

Nobody bent over for Trump in order to get him to do interviews. There was a wikileaks email that showed Jake Tapper emailing HRC campaign asking to interview her and her campaign people called him a "dick" so...

Anonymous said...

Pragya is fast becoming my favorite contributor, thank you so much for being the proverbial voice of reason around here! I couldn't agree more with everything you have said so eloquently and objectively. I too have been bewildered and frustrated by the constant barrage of negative comments on this blog about AC, especially the completely unwarranted accusation that he's a Republican, so I'm really glad to hear that you feel the same. You make a very valid point about all the people that he's close to (Andy Cohen, Kelly Ripa and Mark Consuelos, SJP, Diane von Furstenberg, etc...) being very liberal. His partner Ben is also a Democrat who has held fundraisers for both Obama and more recently for Hillary at his bars, who has contributed to the Democratic party, and who's very vocal about his distaste for Trump on the Instagram accounts for his bars. So I found the notion that AC himself would be a Trump-loving Republican ridiculous, yet according to some around here, that's what he is.

Pragya, since you expressed the desire to identify me, from here on I'll sign my post thus:
ACFriendly.

Jaanza said...

Tuesday's 360

When I got to Tuesday's 360 John Berman was already talking to Sara Murray about Mitt Romney considering being Trump's Secretary of State. Berman also covered Trump's New York Times interview and talked to Maggie Haberman, one of the interviewers, about it. The interview topics were conflicts of interest, son-in-law Kushner, the alt-right, Bannon, etc. When the panel of 6 of the usual pundits started Ieft but still hope one of them said something about Trump still conducting business meetings since the election.

Trump, in the NYT interview, made a comment about SIL Kushner being some kind of envoy to the Mideast and working out a peace agreement between Israel and Palestine. The panel came back but instead I watched Hayes interview David Cay Johnston about the investigation into the Trump Foundation, the FEC finding thousands of mistakes in his campaign financial filings totaling $1.3 M, the Trump University settlement and allegations of tax fraud against Trump.

After an overview on Trump, white supremacists, Nazis and Bannon the panel discussed it all. Or maybe they dressed up like Queen Elizabeth and did the llama dance. I don't know, I didn't watch.

The next segment started with more panel. I didn't see any tiaras or llamas and changed the channel.

The last segment of the first hour was supposed to be Berman interviewing J.D. Vance, author of "Hillbilly Elegy", to talk about Trump supporters. There was some snafu with the audio, Vance never heard Berman's first question so Berman talked to Kaleigh McEnany instead. When I checked back a few minutes later, Berman was interviewing Vance.

As you can see, the first hour was all Trump. Hayes also had a lot of Trump but he also had reports on the Standing Rock protests and Obama handing out his last batch of Presidential Medals of Freedom.

I didn't watch the second hour. Did anyone? Was it also all Trump or was there any coverage of other news? Even if it was just a 15 second report on sightings of Queen Elizabeth doing the llama dance.

Jaanza said...

@Pragya and just about everybody

None of us here have any real knowledge about Anderson's political point-of-view. All kinds of guesses can be made by looking at the way he conducts interviews on 360, by the company he keeps in his private life or by the causes he supports. However the bottom line is these are all guesses. We would like to see Anderson more aligned to our own political viewpoints and are irritated when it appears Anderson is favoring the other side. In total people can find all kinds of questions and comments from Anderson to support both a conservative leaning and a liberal leaning.

Personally I'm pissed off and have been for five or six months since 360's coverage has been saturated with Trump. Maybe because of Zucker or maybe because CNN is a business and good Nielsens are golden. Trump Trump Trump and numerous repeats of Randi Kaye's flattering report on Melania. And then even more Trump.

It was my perception Anderson was soft on Trump and much harsher on Hillary Clinton. It looked like, with minor exceptions ("That's how a five-year-old acts."), that the interviews were very marshmallow and ridiculous statements by Trump parrots in panels were allowed to slide by. Whenever Anderson pushed back on the parrots with reality it was notable and big news here on ATA.

Now and for the next four years I want to see Anderson be tough on Trump. Is he keeping his promises to the coal miners of West Virginia? Is he violatiing federal anti-nepotism laws? Is he nominating SCOTUS judges who will decide against gay marriage? I want to see accountability and "Keeping Them Honest" and not being distracted when Trump tweets a slimy remark about Julia Robert's Oscar dress.
Also, I want to see other news - non-Trump news - on 360.

I think we can all agree: We want 360 to be as good as it used to be.

Anonymous said...

IT IS MY OPINION THAT JAANZA AND ARIES MOON HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THE VOICE OF REASON AND THEY HAVE BEEN
ON THIS BLOG FOR YEARS AND DIDN'T JUST ARRIVE WHEN THE ELECTION WAS OVER.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR CONTINUED LOYALTY TO THIS BLOG.
AND TO AC FRIENDLY: REALLY? SO THOSE WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED WAY BEFORE YOU ARRIVED ON THE SCENE ARE CONSIDERED "UNFRIENDLY"BECAUSE WE GIVE CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM. MOST OF WHAT I DISCUSS IS THE NEWS.
IT IS WHAT I AM INTERESTED IN WHETHER ANDERSON REPORTS ON IT OR NOT.
WE ARE NOT PLAYING FAVORITES HERE. THIS IS NOT HIGH SCHOOL 101.

Pragya said...

@ACFriendly Thank you and you are my favourite too!

@JAANZA

I completely understand what you mean, and you have every right to feel that way about AC. I want Anderson to be the best he can be too, I just take exception to people who say he doesn't care about human rights because he is rich because everything he has done in his career refutes that. The fact that he even has a career refutes that.

We know that Anderson opposed Corey's inclusion on AC360 and also that his Katrina special was bumped because of a Trump rally so I am inclined to think that Zucker was behind the Trump focus. So there is a glimmer of hope in that regard. Apparently after Trump yelled at Zucker last week and called everyone at CNN liars, Zucker sad this today


"Trump reportedly singled out Zucker and CNN in particular during the meeting and said the network was full of liars.

Zucker did not talk about what exactly happened in the room––given the whole “off-the-record” part––but he did say this, per CNN’s Brian Stelter‘s report on the event:

“I want to use this occasion to reiterate what I said directly to the president elect yesterday. As the new leader of the free world, we expect that he will preserve longstanding traditions that ensure coverage of his presidency.”

Zucker talked about how vital the role of a free press is in the United States and said, “We will hold the new administration’s feet to the fire. And they should respect that, even if they don’t welcome it.”

Pragya said...

@anonymous

I totally respect aries moon and JAANZA and everyone who has been on this blog for years. I have been following them and this blog for a long time because I appreciate their commentary, they are awesome.

By the way, I was watching Brian Stelter's piece on Trump threatening the freedom of press and he talked about Obama being the first president to go after whistle-blowers who leaked information to the press, under the espionage act. And he used that to go after NYT and the Washington Post. and Trump might do more of the same, but go directly after the press this time?

Was everyone here aware of that? I was really surprised that Obama of all people challenged the press' freedom of speech. And especially that he went after NYT and WaPo and not Fox News or something.

Anonymous said...

@PRAYGA: WELCOME. I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU ARE AWARE THAT ZUCKER WAS TRUMP'S BOSS WHEN HE WAS ON THE
APPRENTICE AND GOT A PERCENTAGE OF EACH EPISODE. IT WAS A CONTRACT THAT WAS A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT. SO IT IS MY OPINION, THAT TRUMP MADE ZUCKER THE SCAPEGOAT OF THE MEETING AND HE
TOOK HIS REVENGE OUT ON THE ONE PERSON HE KNEW BEST.
I DO NOT KNOW THIS FOR A FACT, BUT DRUMPF IS NOT GOING TO TREAT THE PRESS WITH ANY LOYALTY OR RESPECT. IT WILL BE BEYOND A NIXON ADMINISTRATION. NIXON ALSO WAS NEVER TRANSPARENT WITH THE MEDIA
AND NEVER ESTABLISHED A REPORT. IT WAS HIS UNDOING. A LIKELY SCENARIO COULD OCCUR WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION, BUT NIXON RESIGNED BECAUSE THE PRESS WAS FAR MORE INTUITIVE THAN IT IS TODAY.
TODAY THEY RELY ON TEXT MESSAGES AND SHARED INFORMATION...JOURNOS, ON A WHOLE ARE MORE NAIVE,
WITH LESS OF A DOGGED DETERMINATION. JMO

Anonymous said...

Pragya, ACFriendly here, thank you for your always great contributions. I think it's very telling that Trump is trying to silence CNN, but I have a feeling that it will backlash big time. I know CAPPY and the rest of the conspiracy theorists around here are convinced that CNN and Anderson are in Trump's camp, but for those of us who beg to differ, the post-election coverage on 360 has proved just the opposite: aside from the usual Trump supporters, every single person on the show, including AC, have been nothing if not critical of the president-elect, and appropriately so. I expect this to get worse if Trump keeps whining about the "unfairness" of CNN and Anderson.